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How To Keep A Logbook For Uber
Updated 28th of June 2024
If you want to claim a tax deduction for your car expenses, you MUST keep a 12-week logbook of your Uber, rideshare or food delivery driving.
If you don’t have a valid Uber logbook the ATO will not allow you to claim car deductions for your fuel, insurance, registration or any of your other car expenses. You also won’t be able to claim the Instant Asset Write Off unless you have a logbook.
Without a logbook, you’ll be stuck with the ‘cents per kilometre’ method, which for most drivers will mean a much lower tax deduction, and therefore a higher tax bill.
So in this article, I’ll explain everything you need to know about keeping a logbook for Uber to get the maximum possible tax deduction for your car expenses.
We’ll look at why you need an Uber logbook and what happens if you don’t have one, how to keep a logbook for Uber, which trips you can and can’t include, and some quick tips to maximise your logbook percentage to get the highest tax deduction possible.
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Keeping A Logbook For Uber
What Is A Logbook?
A logbook is a record of your car’s odometer readings kept over a continuous 12-week period.
If you want to claim a tax deduction for your car expenses, the ATO’s rules state that you MUST have a logbook as evidence of the percentage that you use your car for business vs private use. You can then claim that percentage of your Uber car expenses.
These rules apply even if you use your car 100% for business. This is because the ATO still need evidence that your car is actually 100%, they cannot just take your word for it.
If you don’t have a valid logbook then you cannot claim tax deductions for your actual car expenses. Instead, your only option will be the cents per kilometre method, which is usually a smaller tax deduction. This is why a logbook is important for Uber drivers, because it will usually give you a bigger tax deduction so you pay less tax.
What Tax Deductions Can You Claim With A Logbook?
Once you have kept your 12-week logbook, it will show exactly what percentage you use your car for business vs private/other use. You can then claim a tax deduction for all your car’s running expenses multiplied by that percentage.
Here are the car deductions you’ll be able to claim for Uber, rideshare and food delivery:
- Fuel or EV charging
- Registration
- CTP
- Insurance
- Repairs & Maintenance
- Tyres
- Accessories
- Cleaning
- Interest
- Depreciation or the Instant Asset Write-Off
- Car Rental or Lease Fees
Once you’ve totalled up these car expenses for the year you’ll multiply them by your logbook percentage to get your final car tax deduction. Here’s a simplified example of how this would work for a full-time driver:
+ Fuel: $15,000
+ Insurance: $1,000
+ Rego: $1,000
+ Servicing: $2,000
= Total Car Expenses: $19,000
x Logbook: 80%
= Tax Deduction: $15,200
If you’d like more detail on claiming tax deductions for Uber, rideshare or food delivery, including what records you must keep in order to claim, you’ll find some useful links at the end of this post.
Bicycles, Scooters and Motorbikes
A formal 12-week logbook is not required for scooters and bikes. Instead, you are allowed to make a reasonable estimate of your business use percentage. However you must be able to show a reasonable basis for your estimate, I recommend keeping at least a rough four-week diary to show the ATO how you worked out your percentage.
Claiming GST on Car Expenses on your BAS
The rules are a little different for GST and BAS’s. If you’re GST-registered, to claim the GST on your car expenses on your BAS you just need to make a reasonable estimate of your business use percentage, a logbook isn’t required.
If you have kept a logbook then you should certainly use that percentage, but if you haven’t started a logbook yet that’s okay, just estimate your business-use percentage instead. But as I mentioned above, when it comes to your end of year tax return, if you don’t have a logbook you’ll pay far more tax than necessary, so be sure to get a logbook started pronto.
The Cents Per Kilometre Method
If you don’t have a valid 12-week logbook you will NOT be allowed to claim a tax deduction for any of your actual car expenses (e.g. fuel, rego, insurance, depreciation, interest etc). Instead, your only option will be the cents per kilometre method, which will give you a much lower tax deduction and therefore a much higher tax bill.
Calculating Your Kilometres
With the cents per kilometre method there’s no recordkeeping necessary. Instead, you just have to make a reasonable estimate of your business kilometres for the financial year, up to a maximum of 5,000km per vehicle. To make a ‘reasonable estimate’ you must put proper thought into your calculation rather than just guessing, and you must be able to show the ATO how you worked out your result.
- Example 1 – you usually drive rideshare 3 times per week, for about 5 hours each time. You have worked out that in an average 5-hour session you do around 200km. You started driving in May so you drove for 8 weeks of the financial year. So you calculate 200km x 3 sessions per week x 8 weeks = 4,800km
- Example 2 – you drive for Uber and on your monthly tax summaries you have added up the ‘On Trip’ kms for the year to be 3,800km. But this doesn’t include kms in between trips, or driving to and from home at the start and end of your trip. You estimate that these extra kms that Uber don’t include would add another 50% on top of the on-trip kilometres, bringing the total to 5,700km. This means you can claim the maximum 5,000km.
Note that if you had multiple vehicles during the year you can claim up to 5,000km per vehicle. So for example if you changed vehicles halfway through the year you could claim up to 5,000km on the old car plus up to 5,000km on the new car.
The Cents Per Kilometre Rate
Once you have your estimated kilometres you’ll multiply this by the ATO’s cents per kilometre rate for the financial year as follows:
- 2022-2023 – 78 cents per km – maximum claim is 5,000km x 78c = $3,900
- 2023-2024 – 85 cents per km – maximum claim is 5,000km x 85c = $4,250
- 2024-2025 – 88 cents per km – maximum claim is 5,000km x 88c = $4,400
Going back to the full-time driver in our example above, you can see there’s a huge difference in the tax deductions they’d be able to claim with a logbook ($15,200) vs no logbook ($4,250). If our example driver didn’t keep a logbook, they’d be missing out on $10,950 worth of tax deductions. At the 32% tax bracket, that equals $3,405 in unnecessary extra tax. So as you can see, keeping a logbook can save you substantial amount of tax, and is well worth the trouble!
One exception to this is if you know for sure that you’ll be under the tax-free threshold. If you already have no tax to pay then you don’t need any extra tax deductions. So if this applies to you, you may prefer to skip the hassle of keeping a logbook and just stick to the cents per kilometre method instead.
Just for clarity, the cents per kilometre method cannot be used for GST and BAS’s, it is only for tax returns. As mentioned above, when it comes to BAS’s if you haven’t kept a logbook you can still claim the GST on your car expenses, just estimate your percentage and use this to claim the GST on your actual expenses. It also cannot be used for scooters, bicycles and motorbikes, again you must estimate your percentage and claim this amount of your actual running costs.
How To Keep A Logbook
The ATO don’t mind how you keep your logbook, as long as it contains all of the required bits of information. It’s important to note that you cannot just use your Uber app records as a logbook, because of course the Uber app can’t record your odometer. No odometer readings = no logbook!
Here are the main four options for keeping an Uber logbook:
Pen & Paper
The biggest benefit of using a physical logbook is that you can sit it somewhere visible in your car to remind you to record your odometer reading every day (especially handy if you’re forgetful like me!). It also means you don’t have to juggle yet another app, helpful if you drive or deliver for multiple companies. The downside is that at the end of the 12 weeks you’ll need to sit down and add up those kilometres manually with a calculator or spreadsheet. If you choose this option I recommend the Zions Pocket Logbook from Officeworks which costs around $8.00 (look for the yellow cover).
App
Apps make keeping a logbook super easy, as long as you don’t forget to fill it out every day. We’re so used to carrying our phones all the time so it’s easy to forget. The biggest benefit of an app is that it tracks your percentage as you go, and you won’t need to do any adding up. There are a range of apps for both Apple and Android, but make sure you choose one that is ATO-compliant. Remember, an app can’t do the whole process for you automatically by GPS because an app can’t read your car dashboard. Again, no odometer readings = no logbook!
Spreadsheet
Another option to have all the adding up done for you is a logbook spreadsheet. You can download the FREE DriveTax Logbook and Expense Tracker Spreadsheet here to try it out. To easily grab your odometer readings I suggest using your phone to snap a photo of your odometer at the start and end of each shift. They’ll be time-stamped so you’ll know later what date they related to.
Vehicle Data Tracker
If you’re looking for a fully automated solution you may like to consider GoFar. GoFar is a vehicle tracking device that plugs into the diagnostics port of your car so that it can access your odometer readings and log your trips. You then use the tracker’s app to tag each trip as business or private. It’s a sleek-looking unit and has a well-designed app, the company is Australian so you can be sure it’s ATO-friendly, and as bonus it also includes a tool to help increase your fuel mileage and driving efficiency. The GoFar Starter Package costs $120 for a year, so it’s not cheap, but if you’re a full-time driver and you think you’ll benefit from the tracking and efficiency tools then it may be worthwhile.
How To Enter Logbook Trips
Requirements of a Logbook Trip Entry
To count as a valid logbook entry, the ATO require you to include the following data for each trip:
- Start Date and End Date – these will usually be both the same unless you finished after midnight
- Reason for Trip – you can just write ‘rideshare’ or ‘food delivery’
- Odometer at Start & End of Trip – you must record your odometer readings from your car dashboard
- Total Kilometres – calculate this as the end odometer minus the start odometer
Scroll a little further down to see an example of what this might look like.
What Counts as a Trip?
You only need to record tax-deductible trips in your logbook, you do not need to record personal/non-deductible trips. This will save you a bunch of data entry!
You only need to record one logbook entry per driving shift/session. For example if you did a 5-hour driving shift with 20 passengers/deliveries, that is still just one logbook entry. All of the kilometres driving to pick up passengers/deliveries and in between passengers/deliveries are included in this one logbook entry.
Usually you can take your odometer readings from when you leave home until you arrive back home, even if you have the app switched off for the first or last part of your journey. This is a special rule for businesses, and is different to the rules for employees who normally cannot claim travel to and from home.
However, if you make a personal trip before or after your shift, for example you drop your kids at school and then switch on the app, or you stop by the supermarket on your way home, then you must record the odometer at the point when you switch the app on or off, rather than from home.
If you take a meal break during your shift which involves driving somewhere specifically to get food, then when you turn off the app you must record your odometer to end that logbook entry. Then when you turn the app back on you’ll record your odometer again to start a new entry. This is because the ATO considers meals to be private, so kilometres that are solely to drive and get food cannot be counted in your logbook. On the other hand, if you are just cruising in between trips and you happen to pass by a bathroom or food place and decide to stop then you don’t need to to make a separate logbook entry because there were no kilometres that were specifically private. (I realise this is a bit fuzzy, just use your best judgement!)
The ATO rules are a little different if you pick up a rideshare passenger on your way to or from your employee job (or on any personal journey). In this situation you can only claim the kilometres for which the passenger is physically in your car, you cannot claim the kilometres between accepting the ride and picking them up, or any other kilometres on your journey. This is because the ATO does not consider those other kilometres to have the sole purpose of business, they also have the personal purpose of getting you to work (remember travel to and from an employee job is personal). So in this situation you’ll need to note your odometer readings as your passenger is jumping into your car and again when they jump out.
If you also have an employee job for which you have tax-deductible travel that you want to claim (e.g. travelling to meetings or courses) you must record your employee trips in your logbook also, and make sure the reason is clearly marked as ‘employee’. This is because you must use the same claiming method for both business and employee travel, either the cents per kilometre method for both or the logbook method for both, you cannot mix and match. Remember the rules for which trips you can claim are different between business and employee travel (e.g. to and from home is deductible for business but not for employees), so pay close attention to which trips you include in your logbook.
The same applies if you have another ABN business that you use your car for, be sure to include these in your logbook too. Make sure in the reason section they are clearly marked as being for your other business.
Travel for other things that are directly connected to your rideshare or food delivery work can also be included in your logbook. This includes things like car maintenance, vehicle checks and attending training.
Other Logbook Requirements
A valid logbook must go for a continuous 12-week period. This can be any 12-week period of your choosing, but it must be representative of your travel throughout the year. See the Logbook Tips below for more on this.
In order to be valid for a particular financial year, your logbook must begin before 30 June of that year. It’s completely fine if the logbook runs past 30 June and into the next year, as long as the start date is before 30 June (although you’ll have to wait until the 12 weeks are complete before you can lodge your tax return). If 30 June has already passed for a given year it will be too late to start a logbook because it’s impossible to know what your odometer readings were once they’re gone, so you’ll have to use the cents per km for that year.
Once you have kept a logbook it is valid for five years as long as your ‘pattern of usage’ doesn’t change. However there is a little flexibility in this because naturally no-one’s travel is exactly the same week after week. The ATO specify a range of +/- 10% before they consider that your pattern of usage has changed and a new logbook is required.
Your logbook must also show your car’s details, including the make, model, engine capacity and registration number of your car, so make sure these are listed somewhere in your logbook. If you change cars during your logbook’s lifespan you may need to list more than one vehicle. But as long as your pattern of usage doesn’t change +/- 10% you don’t have to start a new logbook.
One final requirement is that you must record your car’s opening and closing odometer readings every financial year, even if you don’t have to keep a whole new logbook that year. I recommend popping a yearly reminder in your phone for the morning of 1 July to record your odometer reading for the new financial year.
How To Calculate Your Uber Logbook Percentage
Once you’ve finished your 12-week logbook, calculating your percentage is easy.
- Add up the total business kilometres. Let’s call this A.
- Work out the total kilometres that your car travelled for the 12 weeks by taking the odometer at the end of the last trip minus the odometer at the start of the first trip. Your answer to this will be B.
- Calculate A divided by B, in other words the business kilometres divided by total kilometres. This will give you your logbook percentage.
If you have both business and employee kilometres in your logbook you just need to repeat the steps above but this time A will be your total employee kilometres. You should then end up with two different percentages, one to use in the employee section of your tax return and one to use in the business section.
Logbook Rules For Particular Scenarios
Changing Your Pattern Of Usage
If your pattern of usage changes by +/- 10% then you must start a new logbook, for example if you switch from part-time to full-time driving, or you switch from food delivery to also doing rideshare.
Changing Cars
If you change cars but your pattern of usage doesn’t change then you don’t have to keep a new logbook. Instead, your existing logbook just rolls right over. This commonly occurs when you buy a new car and sell/trade-in your old car, or if you use a rental car temporarily while your usual car is off the road for any reason. Don’t forget to make a note of the odometer readings of both cars at the time you change over, and to list the new car’s make, model, engine size and rego in your logbook.
Using Multiple Cars
If you use more than one car for rideshare or delivery driving at one time then you must keep a separate logbook for each vehicle, and both logbooks must cover the exact same 12-week period. The most common example of this is if you usually drive in your own car but sometimes use your spouse’s car. You’ll also need to keep separate records of each car’s expenses, you cannot jumble them together. As an alternative, if you only drive the second car occasionally you could keep a logbook only for the main car and use the cents per km method for the occasional car.
Tips To Maximise Your Uber Logbook Percentage
Your 12-week logbook must be representative of your travel throughout the year. But of course no-one’s travel is exactly the same every single week. So the ATO specify a range of +/- 10%, beyond which your logbook becomes invalid and you must start a new one.
So, whilst making sure we always comply with the ATO’s primary rule of the 12-week logbook being a fair representation, we naturally want to make sure we’re on the + side of that range rather than the – side. With this in mind, here are a few tips for keeping your logbook:
Timing of Your 12 Weeks
Some times of year are busier than others, particularly for rideshare drivers. For example, in Melbourne the October-December period encompasses the later part of the Spring Racing Carnival, sometimes the AFL finals, the December Christmas Party season and New Years Eve. So you may try time your logbook period to incorporate at least a few of these major annual events so as to represent what a full 12 months of driving would actually look like.
There might also be personal factors that mean you drive more or less at certain times of year. For example, if you’re a student make sure your 12-week period includes some semester breaks when you’re driving more often.
If You Have Access To Another Car
If you have another car in the family, the during the logbook period you may like to push more of your family’s personal driving towards that car and less personal driving in your logbook car. Don’t take this too far though, or your logbook won’t be a fair representation anymore.
Keep Your Logbook For Longer
If you’re really keen to get the highest possible logbook percentage, you may like to keep a logbook perpetually instead of just for 12 weeks. Many drivers choose to keep odometer readings year-round so that they can choose the most optimal 12-week period (within the ATO’s rules of course).
What Next?
If you’re looking for more ways to boost your Uber tax deductions and minimise your end of year tax bill, these pages on our website might be helpful:
- Learn more about Tax Deductions for Uber Drivers and Tax Deductions for Food Delivery Drivers
- For more on GST and BAS’s visit our Ultimate Guide to Uber BAS’s
- Get the FREE DriveTax Logbook and Expense Tracker Spreadsheet
- For a deeper understanding of keeping records of your expenses, maximising your car deductions, check out our Understanding Uber Taxes online course
Questions? Thoughts? Pop them in the comments below and I’ll get right back to you!
Safe driving! – Jess
About the Author – Jess Murray CPA – Uber Accountant
Jess Murray is a CPA Accountant and registered tax agent. She’s been working in personal and small business tax for 15 years, and has been specialising in tax for Australian Uber Drivers for the last 7 years as the Director of DriveTax. She also teaches an online course called Understanding Uber Taxes.
Jess is on a mission to make taxes straightforward and manageable for Uber drivers across Australia.
The information in this article is general in nature and does not take into account your personal circumstances. If you’d like to know how this article applies to you, please contact us to arrange a consultation, or talk to your accountant.
Hi Michael. thanks for this info.
Once I have completed my logbook I have to upload the file to the ATO?
And what about all my expenses, do I have to scan the receipt and then upload them it aswell?
Thanks.
Hi Camilo, no you don’t have to send your logbook or receipts to the ATO. You just need to file them away safely in your tax records at home for five years in case the ATO request to see them. Consider scanning or taking photos of your receipts so that they don’t fade over time. – Jess
Hi Jess. Thanks for providing all this detailed info. Fantastic article. I still have a few questions and would really appreciate if you can clarify to make sure I keep the records appropriately to use DriveTax at the end of this FY:
1. How to logbook if two persons use the same car for Uber eats? For example, my wife and I use the same car and have two different Uber accounts. Do we need to figure out the percentage of usage for uber related trips individually?
2. Then, should we claim tax deductions separately, and would that apply for all expenses, including petrol, service, tyre replacement, etc?
3. My wife and I also have regular jobs and are paid via TFN. We started doing Uber Eats just a couple of weeks ago. Is your service of $285 AUD covering complete Tax Returns per person (i.e. including employment through TFN and delivery through sole trader ABN)?
Thanks!
Hi Julian. You must keep one logbook per vehicle, and both of you will enter your trips in the one logbook. Be sure to name them carefully, so you can each calculate your individual percentages at the end of the 12 weeks. Then you’ll each keep separate spreadsheets or tax records, and claim your respective percentages of the car’s expenses. So for example, you have insurance of $1,000 partner A’s percentage is 30% and partner B’s percentage is 40%. Both of you will enter the $1,000 insurance payment in your respective tax records, and A will apply their 30% logbook to claim 30%, and B will claim their 40%. I hope that makes sense! To your other question, yes our standard tax return price includes all your employee income and deductions as well. You can find all the information on our Express Tax information page, be sure to read the FAQ’s! – Jess
Hi jess, what do you mean by 12 continuous week logbook? Is it doing doing deliveries straight within 12 weeks period? Or you can do it any weeks of the financial year as long as it is 12 weeks period?
Hi Jonathan, they have to be continuous weeks, as in consecutive, one after another. – Jess
Hey Jess, when you say continous 12 weeks, you arew referring to weeks not days correct? As in i am not required to ubereats deliver 7 days a week? Just continous weeks with say 3 day work weeks or 4-5 days uber delivery (each for 4hrs) would this be acceptable?
Hi Wassi, you don’t have to drive on every day of your logbook. The rule just means that there must be at least 12 weeks between your first logbook entry and your last logbook entry. If you only drive one day in the 12 weeks your logbook is still valid, it just means your logbook percentage will be very low! – Jess
Hi Jess, I would just like to know that as you know Taxis are also allowed to operated as Uber. As taxis are already commercial vehicles, so if we use taxi to work for Uber, do we still need to have a log book. As per my understanding, the log book shows the business/ private usage of the vehicle, so taxis are totally used for business.
If you can explain this , I would really appreciate.
Thanks
Hi Salman, taxis are exempt from keeping a logbook because they are a specific kind of vehicle, for example with painting or markings or advertising, and specific equipment for taxi driving inside. If this applies to you then you are exempt from keeping a logbook, and you can estimate your business use percentage. If you have a regular type of car that doesn’t have any specific traits of a taxi, then you must keep a logbook, even if the car is used 100% for business. – Jess
Hi Jess,
Some great info in here, and I’m sure to digest it all soon.
A question for now though…. I am in the middle of my 12 week log book, and when I submit my BAS, do I claim my rego and insurance as part of the BAS, or at income tax time, or both? I paid both rego and insurance during this current quarter. Also, as my vehicle was used privately before I started Ridesharing, am I claiming the depreciation during my BAS statements or at income tax time?
Apologies if these questions are answered elsewhere.
Cheers,
Trev
Hi Trev, your rego and insurance are claimed on both your BAS and tax return. For your BAS you don’t have to have a 12-week logboook, you can just use an estimate based on your logbook so far. Depreciation is not claimed on BAS’s, it is only relevant for your tax return. – Jess
Hi Jess
Heaps of useful information here. I will be completing my tax return with you guys this year.
Just a query with the 12 week log book. Do the ATO require only one 12 week log book for the ntire financial year? I’ve logged all my kilometres for the past financial year but from May ’22 I have worked Uber Driving significantly more. My percentage of Uber kilometers will be significantly higher so is providing the 12 week logbook from May-July my best option?
Hi Alex, you only have to keep one 12-week logbook and then you don’t have to keep another one for 5 years, as long as your pattern of usage doesn’t change substantially (as a rule of thumb we usually say more than +/- 10%). However, you can choose to keep a new logbook whenever you want, so if you feel like your previous logbook doesn’t reflect your driving you can always start a new one. But remember if you keep your logbook at a peak time and then your usage drops off after that then the logbook could become invalid. Obviously this is difficult for people who drive more or less at different times of year, so I recommend taking a whole-year perspective: as long as your 12-week logbook is within 10% of your overall average driving percentage that you would estimate for yourself for the year, then it should be valid. – Jess
Hi Jess, first of all thankyou so much for your help for making abn for me.
I just started doing ubereats.
At the same time I have full time job.
I read above that we can claim up to 5.000km with 81 cent per km.
I have 2 cars now that I use for the delivery, does it mean I can claim for both up to 5.000 km or just 1 car?
Beside that, what else can I claim for the tax deduction?
And If let says I want to buy another car for just doing ubereats, is it deductible?
Thanks and sorry Im really have no idea how the abn works, really appreciate your time and help.
Hi Eliana, yes if you have two cars that you use then yes you can claim up to 5,000km for each. Just make sure that you have a way to give evidence of this to the ATO if needed. For the answers to your other questions, check out these articles on our website: Complete Guide to Uber Taxes, Tax for Food Delivery Drivers, Buying A Car For Uber. – Jess
Hi Jess
What tax claim can a UBER cycle delivery rider claim back from the ATO
Hi Nelson, let me direct you over to our article on Tax Deductions for Uber Drivers, and also Tax for Food Delivery Drivers. I think they will answer your questions! – Jess
Hi Jess
First of all, Thank you for sharing this information. I find this post amazing and helpful for especially someone like me who just recently has started to work as an Uber Eats driver.
I have been working for about 3 weeks and started to collect receipts for my car expenses since yesterday which means that I threw all my petrol receipts away for the past 2 weeks.
However, You can check them in my bank account statement.
In this case, Are they claimable for tax deduction?
Thank you.
Hi Janghan, yes, if you don’t have a tax invoice the ATO will accept your bank records as evidence. However rideshare drivers should note that the answer is a little different for claiming GST, for expenses over $82.50 you must have a tax invoice in order to claim a GST credit. – Jess
Hello Jess, hope you are well. May I please ask…My income from Uber Eats exceeds $20,000 for FY22, and I also have other assessable income from PAYG. As I bought a car majority for Uber Eats, if I use the instant write-off method, is it possible to choose to defer the loss with my ABN, rather than offsetting the loss against my other assessable income? I read from the ATO website that “You cannot choose to hold onto losses to offset them against future income if they can be offset against the current year’s income.” Is this the case? If I cannot ‘choose’ to defer the loss with my Uber ABN, then I may not get the best tax deductions, as my other assessable income is actually below the tax threshold of $18,200. Just thought I’d double check, appreciate your time in answering these questions.
Hi Wendy, unfortunately you’re absolutely right. The ATO forces you to use your loss as soon as you have income available to offset it against, even if it is to your disadvantage. I’m sorry it’s not better news! – Jess
Hi there, i’m having trouble getting the logbook spreadsheet to calculate the total Kms. The Total Vehicle Kms cell says “Error
Did not find value ‘2’ in LOOKUP evaluation.”
How do I remedy this?
Thanks
Hi Tai, it sounds like a formula has been corrupted somehow. If you’d like to email me a copy of your spreadsheet to info@drivetax.com.au I can fix it right up for you. – Jess
Hi Jess!
I only do Uber Eats quite rarely, maybe one night every few weeks (when there are promotions going). There is no way I would be doing it for 12 weeks straight, but will I need to do that in order to lodge a valid logbook at tax time? I have the ATO app on my phone and can enter my odometer reading before and after every Uber Eats trip that I do from now on, but will it not count unless I record it for 12 weeks straight and make sure I do deliveries for all those 12 weeks leading up to tax time?
Otherwise I am very happy to just continue delivering whenever I feel!
Thanks in advance!
Hi Harry, there’s no requirement for how much or how little you work during the 12 week period. The only requirement is that the first trip and the last trip in your logbook are 12 weeks apart. If there are only a handful of trips in that time that’s no problem, it just means you’ll have a lower logbook percentage (assuming you have private use in the meantime). If your business percentage is very low, it may turn out that you’ll get a larger tax deduction using the cents per km method than the logbook method. But there’s no harm in keeping the logbook anyway, and that will allow you to calculate both ways at tax time and see which gets you the bigger tax deduction. – Jess
Hi Jess
I have a similar situation to Harry.
I’ve started casual Uber eats delivery from the 19th of January until the 10th of March and haven’t made any delivery since then as I have been inundated from my other work which is full time.
Can you please advice me of what to do next as I am worried that I won’t be able to claim all the kms that I have travelled during that time including my fuel and servicing expenses ..
Thank you
Hi Mariel, you can still make a 12 week logbook from that time, it just means your percentage will be lower. If you check your odometer now, that can be the closing odometer reading of your 12-week logbook (it’s fine that it’s more than 12 weeks). Then you will calculate the number of business kms in your logbook divided by the total kms your car travelled in that time, and that will give you your logbook percentage. That way you can claim your fuel and other costs. As an alternative, if you plan to do more driving going forwards, you can always start a new logbook (it’s fine if the 12 weeks runs past the end of the financial year, as long as you start before 30 June it will be valid for this financial year). – Jess
Thank you for all of the great info. I will definitely be in contact when its tax time. Can i ask how loans work? Can you claim the loan payments on your car if you still owe the bank money?
Cheers
Hi Alexis, only the loan interest is tax-deductible, not the principal repayments. This is because the loan principal that you borrowed is actually for the cost of the car, and you would have already claimed the cost of the car via depreciation or the instant asset write-off. You will need to check with your bank to see how much interest you paid for each financial year and then multiply by your logbook percentage to see how much you can claim. There is no GST on interest so this is not relevant to your BAS, only to your end of year tax return. – Jess
Hello Jess,
I’ve only started UberEATS deliveries on 28 November 2021. I had no idea on July 1 that I would be doing these deliveries and did not get an odometer reading at that time. It’s probably a silly question, but what do I do for this? Do I just take the odometer reading for the start of my UberEATS driving and expenses from that point?
I also know that about half of my year (for rego and insurance purposes) did not involve UberEATS. Do I do a sort of pro rata calculation to determine the amount of rego and insurance I can claim for? So 50% off the insurance and rego BEFORE taking the percentage of business use?
Hi Jen, yes, in your first year you can just use the odometer on the date you started driving. Regarding the expenses, small businesses report their income and expenses on a ‘cash basis’. This means that the whole expense is recognised on the date it is paid, there is no pro-rating. As a result, the ATO only allows us to claim expenses that you paid for after the date you commenced your business. So if you paid your annual rego and insurance before your business start date then unfortunately the ATO doesn’t allow a deduction. (The reverse is also true, if you paid your annual bills and then stopped driving a month later you’d still get the full deduction, but that isn’t much help to you right now). – Jess
Hi Jess, fantastic article and information – we’ll sure be looking up to you when tax return comes around. We have just started with Uber, the car that my husband currently drives since signing up to Uber is under my name – we only have one car at the moment. However, we are seriously considering buying another car for Uber so that it gives us flexibility as he does tend to take out the car too often since starting with Uber. We have been keeping the odometers. Can he claim all expenses related to the car that he is currently driving for Uber, including depreciation, even it is under my name? When we get a new car predominately for his Uber, can we claim expenses for both cars based on the same log book percentages? Many thanks, Wendy.
Hi Wendy, thanks for the great feedback!
If a vehicle is shared by two people, you must still just keep one logbook for the car. You’ll need to annotate the trips with each of your names so that you can calculate two separate percentages, but it must be all in the one physical/digital logbook. You’ll then take 100% of the car’s expenses and each declare your respective percentages in your tax returns.
It is no problem that the car is owned in one spouse’s name or the other. The ATO understand that spouses often buy assets in one name or the other for personal or financial reasons, so you are allowed to claim depreciation or expenses on a car that is owned in your spouses name as long as you have a logbook to prove your usage.
If you buy a second car, your pattern of usage will change significantly so the previous logbook will become invalid. So you will need to keep two new logbooks, one for each car. – Jess
Hi Jess, many thanks for your reply. Just another questions as I have read mix-match information on this. If you don’t mind clarifying that’d be much appreciated. The car that I am using for Uber was purchased 2 years ago. My understanding is that from the date that I start with Uber, I can start claiming the car’s depreciation. However, I am not sure if I should use the purchase price 2 years ago, depreciate for 2 years to today, then using that as my starting point for Uber depreciation, OR I read somewhere in one of your answers to a question that I can go on CarSale, find similar make and model to my car of today (same make/model/similar mileage), and use the current market value (as demonstrated by printing out advertised car sale prices) to start the Uber depreciation. Which is correct please? Also generally I believe ATO’s default car depreciation is 8 years but I read somewhere Uber would be for 5 years (due to high driving I am guessing?) so if I need to depreciate my current car from the purchase price for 2 years first, then do I depreciate the remaining value in 5 years, or instantly write off? Sorry for the long winded questions!
Interesting the current second hand cars seem to be more expensive than from couple of years ago….probably due to Covid.
Hi Wendy, if a car was used privately for a period of time before it became a business asset then the ATO’s prescribed approach is to do a calculation of depreciation up until the start date for Uber. With regard to effective life, you are correct that the ATO does allow for you to estimate your own effective life. However in my opinion unless you were driving full time for many years, it would be hard to argue that a new car would be scrap metal in less than 8 years, and being a subjective choice I think it would be hard to prove for all but the most full time long term Uber drivers. I appreciate that the car would certainly require more maintenance, but that is tax deducible so it doesn’t factor into the argument. I think it would be an immediate red flag to the ATO, and would be very challenging to prove, so our policy is to always retain the ATO’s 8 year / 25% depreciation rate. Having said all of this, for anyone driving so much that their car’s effective life might actually be less than 8 years, they’d have a very high income so we’d almost always be applying the instant asset write off / temporary full expensing anyway. I hope this helps! – Jess
I do Uber Eats food delivery with my car and also I have a employment, so do I need to record per day the KMs that I do with my employment and at the same time do I need to write in my logbook spreadsheet every single trip or just day by day that I do with Uber eats for example,
Monday start 05/07/2021 to end 05/07/2021 purpose (employment), odometer start 10310km- odometer end 10334km
Monday start 05/07/2021 to end 05/07/2021 purpose (Food Delivery), odometer start 10334km- odometer end 10492km
Tuesday start 06/07/2021 to end 06/07/2021 purpose (Employment), odometer start 10494km- odometer end 10518km
Tuesday start 06/07/2021 to end 06/07/2021 purpose (Food Delivery), odometer start 10518km- odometer end 10718km
so saying this do I need to record every single trip or just write day by day during the financial year between 01/07/2020 to 30/06/2021 or just keep the information in the spreadsheet for only continues 12 weeks
thanks
Hi Hugo, what you have written above is correct. You must make one line in your logbook for the food delivery session/shift (not each individual delivery, just the start and end of the shift), and another line for the employee travel. If you have personal travel you don’t have to enter it. You only need to do this for 12 weeks. – Jess
Hi Jess, Just want to say THANK YOU for writing these amazing articles. Wish you all the best!!
Thanks for the kind words Steph! – Jess
Hi , can i ask doing uber eats with motorcycle , do I have to keep a logbook ? Or do I just estimate the kms for tax deduction ? Do I get tax deductions using a motorcycle ?
Hi Andy, there is no cents per km option for motorbikes, scooters, bicycles etc. You don’t have to keep a logbook, you can just estimate what percentage you use your bike for UberEats, and then claim that percentage of your fuel, insurance, maintenance etc. – Jess
Hi Jess if I drop a passenger at say the airport and return to my area that I came from empty do I have to record this as personal
Hi Michael, you can record your whole Uber shift including when you are empty between passengers, from home to your first job and from your last job home, all as one business trip in your logbook. The only exception is if you do something personal on your pay home, for example going to the supermarket or picking the kids up from school. The blog post above explains what to do in those situations. – Jess